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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32336</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nothing of the sort. 

All of this, and we *still* haven&#039;t heard when it&#039;s right, or true, or real, or what possible scenarios in which women, in yours/Dworkin&#039;s schema, to have sex--intercourse, or any kind of sex. Apparently, all women are always already whores, so female sexual expression is impossible, in your world. We&#039;re hopelessly deadlocked in misogyny and patriarchy. I&#039;ve already explained why it&#039;s obvious that this is not the case in the U.S., where women are excelling and taking over every sector as we speak, so I&#039;ll refrain from repeating myself on this point.

Beyond this, I find it absurd to that you accuse someone who thinks that sex and &quot;love&quot; need not and are not the same thing, and do not need to be conceived of theoretically as such, of doing so because they are &quot;shallow&quot;... I&#039;m in good company with several of Badiou&#039;s own intellectual mentors, Lacan included, and I&#039;m sure you know this.

I don&#039;t care about stupid pop cultural identifications and &quot;playas&quot; and whatever dismissive term you want to hurl at me for not living up to the monogamous heterosexual status quo (as a woman, I&#039;ve heard them all, believe me--how dare I unapologetically have casual sex? I *must* be a brat, or &quot;insecure&quot;, or &quot;boastful&quot;, or damaged, or a &quot;whore&quot;). I live my life the way I want to, according to my own wants and needs, and I don&#039;t care what you think. I&#039;m sorry if that&#039;s offensive to you, and doesn&#039;t fit in very well to your schema where &quot;love&quot; needs to be at the center of erotic relations, and women are scared of/scarred by intercourse--but that&#039;s the way it is. 

What&#039;s bratty and adolescent is to insist that everyone needs to live their lives, sexually and otherwise, according to some dictum that you&#039;ve drawn up and that&#039;s right, well, *because you say so*...and if they don&#039;t agree, they&#039;re only being &quot;defensive&quot; because you are the center of everyone&#039;s psychosexual universe.

Can I get a :P?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nothing of the sort. </p>
<p>All of this, and we *still* haven&#8217;t heard when it&#8217;s right, or true, or real, or what possible scenarios in which women, in yours/Dworkin&#8217;s schema, to have sex&#8211;intercourse, or any kind of sex. Apparently, all women are always already whores, so female sexual expression is impossible, in your world. We&#8217;re hopelessly deadlocked in misogyny and patriarchy. I&#8217;ve already explained why it&#8217;s obvious that this is not the case in the U.S., where women are excelling and taking over every sector as we speak, so I&#8217;ll refrain from repeating myself on this point.</p>
<p>Beyond this, I find it absurd to that you accuse someone who thinks that sex and &#8220;love&#8221; need not and are not the same thing, and do not need to be conceived of theoretically as such, of doing so because they are &#8220;shallow&#8221;&#8230; I&#8217;m in good company with several of Badiou&#8217;s own intellectual mentors, Lacan included, and I&#8217;m sure you know this.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about stupid pop cultural identifications and &#8220;playas&#8221; and whatever dismissive term you want to hurl at me for not living up to the monogamous heterosexual status quo (as a woman, I&#8217;ve heard them all, believe me&#8211;how dare I unapologetically have casual sex? I *must* be a brat, or &#8220;insecure&#8221;, or &#8220;boastful&#8221;, or damaged, or a &#8220;whore&#8221;). I live my life the way I want to, according to my own wants and needs, and I don&#8217;t care what you think. I&#8217;m sorry if that&#8217;s offensive to you, and doesn&#8217;t fit in very well to your schema where &#8220;love&#8221; needs to be at the center of erotic relations, and women are scared of/scarred by intercourse&#8211;but that&#8217;s the way it is. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s bratty and adolescent is to insist that everyone needs to live their lives, sexually and otherwise, according to some dictum that you&#8217;ve drawn up and that&#8217;s right, well, *because you say so*&#8230;and if they don&#8217;t agree, they&#8217;re only being &#8220;defensive&#8221; because you are the center of everyone&#8217;s psychosexual universe.</p>
<p>Can I get a :P?</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32331</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just hopeless defensive flailing. If you&#039;ve nothing better to bring than vacuous, bratty sarcasm, insecure boasting about what a playa you are, and cliched ad hominems against those boring, repressive, religiously hung-up straights, then you may as well just piss off, to be honest. Go and be shallow and obnoxious on your own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just hopeless defensive flailing. If you&#8217;ve nothing better to bring than vacuous, bratty sarcasm, insecure boasting about what a playa you are, and cliched ad hominems against those boring, repressive, religiously hung-up straights, then you may as well just piss off, to be honest. Go and be shallow and obnoxious on your own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32330</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, because dancing is inherently bad, women having sex except as some part of some monogamous I LOVE YOU FOREVER XOXO hallmark card White Wedding romance role play is inherently bad, the only time it&#039;s ok for women to express themselves sexually is--well, never. Unless it&#039;s in Badiou&#039;s bedroom and the priest signed the papers. With no mirrors around and--god forbid--definitely no cameras or other people who didn&#039;t sign the papers.

Blah blah I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve heard all of this before somewhere. 

Parody Center, I&#039;ve already spent far too many words explaining why there&#039;s no difference between a prostitute and a wife in this psychosexual economy-- that is, if you&#039;re going to insist on bowing down to the heterosexist status quo that already privileges male sexual expression and experience over the female kinds so that women can only ever be sexual subordinates, victims of masculine desire, and never desiring subjects. So ok, if you want to believe we can&#039;t escape or ignore this status quo and its norms, then be prepared to, as Dworkin was fond of telling couples with kids, recognize your own children as &quot;the product of a rapist and a whore.&quot;

Trust me, you won&#039;t get through to these people, it&#039;s like talking to a brick wall of Christian guilt and body shame. We&#039;re icky and sinful, don&#039;t you get it!? We are not supposed to enjoy sex, that is bad. We are supposed to wear hair shirts and constantly compare ourselves to child sex slaves in the third world, no matter what, even if this is trivializing and insulting to the actual suffering and plight of these children because our lives are nothing like theirs. 

What it really comes down to is that women can&#039;t actually like sex outside of marriage, women are special angelic beings who don&#039;t enjoy casual sex, they can only get off on Pure Love &lt;3 &lt;3 (*sends creepy possessive jealous insecure vibe*) When women sign their names they usually draw hearts above the &quot;i&quot;s, that is how angelic and romantic they are. They are scared of teh penis. That is why they love only mine and mine only. 4ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, because dancing is inherently bad, women having sex except as some part of some monogamous I LOVE YOU FOREVER XOXO hallmark card White Wedding romance role play is inherently bad, the only time it&#8217;s ok for women to express themselves sexually is&#8211;well, never. Unless it&#8217;s in Badiou&#8217;s bedroom and the priest signed the papers. With no mirrors around and&#8211;god forbid&#8211;definitely no cameras or other people who didn&#8217;t sign the papers.</p>
<p>Blah blah I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve heard all of this before somewhere. </p>
<p>Parody Center, I&#8217;ve already spent far too many words explaining why there&#8217;s no difference between a prostitute and a wife in this psychosexual economy&#8211; that is, if you&#8217;re going to insist on bowing down to the heterosexist status quo that already privileges male sexual expression and experience over the female kinds so that women can only ever be sexual subordinates, victims of masculine desire, and never desiring subjects. So ok, if you want to believe we can&#8217;t escape or ignore this status quo and its norms, then be prepared to, as Dworkin was fond of telling couples with kids, recognize your own children as &#8220;the product of a rapist and a whore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trust me, you won&#8217;t get through to these people, it&#8217;s like talking to a brick wall of Christian guilt and body shame. We&#8217;re icky and sinful, don&#8217;t you get it!? We are not supposed to enjoy sex, that is bad. We are supposed to wear hair shirts and constantly compare ourselves to child sex slaves in the third world, no matter what, even if this is trivializing and insulting to the actual suffering and plight of these children because our lives are nothing like theirs. </p>
<p>What it really comes down to is that women can&#8217;t actually like sex outside of marriage, women are special angelic beings who don&#8217;t enjoy casual sex, they can only get off on Pure Love &lt;3 &lt;3 (*sends creepy possessive jealous insecure vibe*) When women sign their names they usually draw hearts above the &#8220;i&#8221;s, that is how angelic and romantic they are. They are scared of teh penis. That is why they love only mine and mine only. 4ever.</p>
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		<title>By: parody center</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32328</link>
		<dc:creator>parody center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some time ago dr. Sinthome also used the expression &#039;&#039;pimp my thesis&#039;&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago dr. Sinthome also used the expression &#8221;pimp my thesis&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: parody center</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32327</link>
		<dc:creator>parody center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh-so-eagerly reducing everyone to the status of ho’s.

As the widely known phenomenon of the pimp and the ho&#039; on MTV, which has long since become de rigeur amongst the youth, illustrates, the omnipotent market has commodified most human relations save for those of the privileged few so that the very act of working implies prostitution. In this sense, we are all whores on the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh-so-eagerly reducing everyone to the status of ho’s.</p>
<p>As the widely known phenomenon of the pimp and the ho&#8217; on MTV, which has long since become de rigeur amongst the youth, illustrates, the omnipotent market has commodified most human relations save for those of the privileged few so that the very act of working implies prostitution. In this sense, we are all whores on the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Beckett</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32325</link>
		<dc:creator>Beckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anodynelite, no: a &lt;i&gt;direct&lt;/i&gt; correlation implies a &lt;i&gt;statistical&lt;/i&gt; correlation, which can be positive (forward) or negative (inverse) in direction. You&#039;re claiming that a negative, inverse correlation exists.

Peter Stringfellow is a Christian, a Catholic in fact (who, predictably, votes Tory, and who, at 69, just married a 27-year-old). It is those opposed to sexual violence who &#039;mainly&#039; lobby against lapdancing hellholes (what are you calling them &#039;clubs&#039; for? Like golf-clubs?). So lapdancing is now elevated to a form of &#039;female sexual expression&#039;? Is this, like, slavery as a form of &#039;black empowerment&#039;?

Dejan, you were oh-so-eagerly reducing everyone to the status of ho&#039;s. Why would you want to do this?

As with lapdancing, this is something to be resisted, not embraced (zombie-like).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anodynelite, no: a <i>direct</i> correlation implies a <i>statistical</i> correlation, which can be positive (forward) or negative (inverse) in direction. You&#8217;re claiming that a negative, inverse correlation exists.</p>
<p>Peter Stringfellow is a Christian, a Catholic in fact (who, predictably, votes Tory, and who, at 69, just married a 27-year-old). It is those opposed to sexual violence who &#8216;mainly&#8217; lobby against lapdancing hellholes (what are you calling them &#8216;clubs&#8217; for? Like golf-clubs?). So lapdancing is now elevated to a form of &#8216;female sexual expression&#8217;? Is this, like, slavery as a form of &#8216;black empowerment&#8217;?</p>
<p>Dejan, you were oh-so-eagerly reducing everyone to the status of ho&#8217;s. Why would you want to do this?</p>
<p>As with lapdancing, this is something to be resisted, not embraced (zombie-like).</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32324</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beckett, you do understand that in math/statistics there&#039;s a difference between direct relationship and an inverse one, right? Porn does not cause rape, period. In places where there is more porn consumption, there is actually LESS rape.

Interestingly, it&#039;s mainly Christians who lobby against lapdancing clubs, because it&#039;s their repressed husbands who are frequenting them. And their sick imaginations cooking up some kind of &quot;evil&quot; in all forms of female sexual expression outside of monogamous relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beckett, you do understand that in math/statistics there&#8217;s a difference between direct relationship and an inverse one, right? Porn does not cause rape, period. In places where there is more porn consumption, there is actually LESS rape.</p>
<p>Interestingly, it&#8217;s mainly Christians who lobby against lapdancing clubs, because it&#8217;s their repressed husbands who are frequenting them. And their sick imaginations cooking up some kind of &#8220;evil&#8221; in all forms of female sexual expression outside of monogamous relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/20/the-mans-got-a-system/comment-page-1/#comment-32323</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: parody center</title>
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		<dc:creator>parody center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though not for the cynical, zombie-conformist reason he gives 

That&#039;s rich coming from a zombie-existentialist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though not for the cynical, zombie-conformist reason he gives </p>
<p>That&#8217;s rich coming from a zombie-existentialist!</p>
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		<title>By: Beckett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t that it is &#039;hard to understand&#039;, it&#039;s perhaps a confusion of terms. What you&#039;re claiming is that there is a negative correlation, as opposed to a positive one, between pornography and sexual violence. That&#039;s still a claim of a &#039;direct correlation&#039;, which contradicts your assertion of there being &#039;no direct correlation&#039; (a term that means no statistical correlation, whether positive or negative). In some ways Dejan is right to say that all of this is irrelevant (though not for the cynical, zombie-conformist reason he gives ), because &lt;i&gt;pornography is itself exploitation, is itself sexual violence&lt;/i&gt;, including &#039;lap dancing&#039; hellholes (BTW, I was directly involved in the shutting down of one in Dublin two years ago: that scumbag sexual criminal Peter Stringfellows tried to set another one up there [he owns a chain of them]; interestingly, and tellingly, it was mainly working class women who lobbied and protested against it. Apologists for lap-dancing clubs are seriously deluded fantasists; but then, that&#039;s part of the agenda of pornography: to legitimize and normalize such stark exploitation as the &#039;lap dancing&#039; garbage.).

Nor does the &quot;law and order&#039; approach, so manic in the US, to sexual violence even begin to address the underlying causes: it just further expands the runaway industrialized prison/penal system (the US, despite having over half a million in prison for &#039;drug-related crimes&#039;, for instance, [that&#039;s greater than the entire prison population of the European Union, an area with double the US population], as the country continues to witness a growth in drug abuse).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t that it is &#8216;hard to understand&#8217;, it&#8217;s perhaps a confusion of terms. What you&#8217;re claiming is that there is a negative correlation, as opposed to a positive one, between pornography and sexual violence. That&#8217;s still a claim of a &#8216;direct correlation&#8217;, which contradicts your assertion of there being &#8216;no direct correlation&#8217; (a term that means no statistical correlation, whether positive or negative). In some ways Dejan is right to say that all of this is irrelevant (though not for the cynical, zombie-conformist reason he gives ), because <i>pornography is itself exploitation, is itself sexual violence</i>, including &#8216;lap dancing&#8217; hellholes (BTW, I was directly involved in the shutting down of one in Dublin two years ago: that scumbag sexual criminal Peter Stringfellows tried to set another one up there [he owns a chain of them]; interestingly, and tellingly, it was mainly working class women who lobbied and protested against it. Apologists for lap-dancing clubs are seriously deluded fantasists; but then, that&#8217;s part of the agenda of pornography: to legitimize and normalize such stark exploitation as the &#8216;lap dancing&#8217; garbage.).</p>
<p>Nor does the &#8220;law and order&#8217; approach, so manic in the US, to sexual violence even begin to address the underlying causes: it just further expands the runaway industrialized prison/penal system (the US, despite having over half a million in prison for &#8216;drug-related crimes&#8217;, for instance, [that's greater than the entire prison population of the European Union, an area with double the US population], as the country continues to witness a growth in drug abuse).</p>
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