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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32281</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how you are making a public display of your twitter comments. Always classy.

Me, an ex-fundie? You are admitted a Christian *now*... I have never once, not once, ever in my life, professed a faith in any God. I was forced to go to church when I was a kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how you are making a public display of your twitter comments. Always classy.</p>
<p>Me, an ex-fundie? You are admitted a Christian *now*&#8230; I have never once, not once, ever in my life, professed a faith in any God. I was forced to go to church when I was a kid.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32279</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But you seem to be suggesting that sexuality in particular is not “an area of life in which the construction of a meaningful autonomy is possible.” If autonomy in all cases is a mystification (and it is), what does it mean to say that sexual autonomy is especially a mystification?&quot;

Why would autonomy be a &quot;mystification&quot; and not just another product of a &quot;set of social relations&quot; like many other things in this picture are? If women are not afforded the same privileges to enjoy sex and consent to sex as men are, this is because female autonomy (agency, subjectivity, whatever you want to call it) is not being constructed in our social relations. The way to fix this problem is not to further restrict female sexual expression, but to broaden it to include everything it already includes for men under the law, and in our daily lives.

The purity myth runs deep, though, and many, many people do not want to believe that women can do &quot;dirty&quot; sexual things. Christian guilt is powerful in its own right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But you seem to be suggesting that sexuality in particular is not “an area of life in which the construction of a meaningful autonomy is possible.” If autonomy in all cases is a mystification (and it is), what does it mean to say that sexual autonomy is especially a mystification?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would autonomy be a &#8220;mystification&#8221; and not just another product of a &#8220;set of social relations&#8221; like many other things in this picture are? If women are not afforded the same privileges to enjoy sex and consent to sex as men are, this is because female autonomy (agency, subjectivity, whatever you want to call it) is not being constructed in our social relations. The way to fix this problem is not to further restrict female sexual expression, but to broaden it to include everything it already includes for men under the law, and in our daily lives.</p>
<p>The purity myth runs deep, though, and many, many people do not want to believe that women can do &#8220;dirty&#8221; sexual things. Christian guilt is powerful in its own right.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32278</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also love here how you insist that anyone who disagrees with you about &quot;abasement&quot; and &quot;consent&quot; does so because they *endorse* stripping and sex work. 

I don&#039;t endorse it at all, I just refuse to pretend that women have no agency in the matter whatsoever, and I refuse to pretend that men alone, sexist pigs in particular, determine &quot;social reality&quot; and what the sum of &quot;social relations&quot; amounts to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also love here how you insist that anyone who disagrees with you about &#8220;abasement&#8221; and &#8220;consent&#8221; does so because they *endorse* stripping and sex work. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t endorse it at all, I just refuse to pretend that women have no agency in the matter whatsoever, and I refuse to pretend that men alone, sexist pigs in particular, determine &#8220;social reality&#8221; and what the sum of &#8220;social relations&#8221; amounts to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32277</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ll be, uh, elsewhere.&quot;

You mean like my comments box?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ll be, uh, elsewhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like my comments box?</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32276</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how when you can&#039;t answer something, you back out with your finale--the &quot;I&#039;m obviously right because I keep insisting that I&#039;m right&quot;, without answering anyone&#039;s very obvious objections to your claims. 

Bravo. Have fun telling women they can&#039;t consent to sex. I&#039;m sure that&#039;ll get you far in your radical feminist militant mission,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how when you can&#8217;t answer something, you back out with your finale&#8211;the &#8220;I&#8217;m obviously right because I keep insisting that I&#8217;m right&#8221;, without answering anyone&#8217;s very obvious objections to your claims. </p>
<p>Bravo. Have fun telling women they can&#8217;t consent to sex. I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;ll get you far in your radical feminist militant mission,</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32274</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to waste my time explaining why this has nothing to do with my position. I think I&#039;ve made my argument reasonably clearly. If you want to shadow-box with some imaginary conservative moralist in my comments box, go ahead. Obviously someone wants to stop you having all the fun you&#039;re entitled to. Go ahead, tell that person how wrong they are! I&#039;ll be, uh, elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to waste my time explaining why this has nothing to do with my position. I think I&#8217;ve made my argument reasonably clearly. If you want to shadow-box with some imaginary conservative moralist in my comments box, go ahead. Obviously someone wants to stop you having all the fun you&#8217;re entitled to. Go ahead, tell that person how wrong they are! I&#8217;ll be, uh, elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32272</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And really, the more you try to insist that no one else can actually have &quot;amorous encounters&quot;, the sillier and more naive you look. Speak for yourself, kiddo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And really, the more you try to insist that no one else can actually have &#8220;amorous encounters&#8221;, the sillier and more naive you look. Speak for yourself, kiddo.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2009/03/11/petty-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-32271</link>
		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This ideology runs into all kinds of vexations, unsurprisingly enough, when it has to deal with the sexualities of children and the severely disabled.&quot;

No, it doesn&#039;t. People who can&#039;t make informed consent (like children or elderly bedridden patients) under this &quot;ideology&quot; are afforded all the rights they deserve to have, namely, they are protected from being coerced into sexual action by the law. 

What do you suggest as an alternative to this? A society in which women are considered inferior to men, mentally and emotionally, and are therefore barred from being able to make informed consent- a society in which healthy sexually active women are actually just &quot;invalids&quot; and victims? One in which people are allowed free reign to molest or rape children the disabled, just because strippers exist and you don&#039;t like that?

One thing that&#039;s oddly lacking in your picture is the fact that women are often on the giving end of sexual abuse and rape, not always on the receiving end.

The idea that men are the sole perpetraters of rape and sexual abuse is simply not factual. Many male rapists and abusers, in fact, come by misogyny rather &quot;naturally&quot; after they are sexually abused by their own mothers and female caregivers. Many psychologists believe there are nearly equal numbers of male and female child molesters--it&#039;s simply women are better at manipulating their victims, not as likely to come under suspicion, and better and not getting caught. Also, they benefit from the fact that most people think males (even male children) are incapable of having sex forced upon them by women. Think again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This ideology runs into all kinds of vexations, unsurprisingly enough, when it has to deal with the sexualities of children and the severely disabled.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t. People who can&#8217;t make informed consent (like children or elderly bedridden patients) under this &#8220;ideology&#8221; are afforded all the rights they deserve to have, namely, they are protected from being coerced into sexual action by the law. </p>
<p>What do you suggest as an alternative to this? A society in which women are considered inferior to men, mentally and emotionally, and are therefore barred from being able to make informed consent- a society in which healthy sexually active women are actually just &#8220;invalids&#8221; and victims? One in which people are allowed free reign to molest or rape children the disabled, just because strippers exist and you don&#8217;t like that?</p>
<p>One thing that&#8217;s oddly lacking in your picture is the fact that women are often on the giving end of sexual abuse and rape, not always on the receiving end.</p>
<p>The idea that men are the sole perpetraters of rape and sexual abuse is simply not factual. Many male rapists and abusers, in fact, come by misogyny rather &#8220;naturally&#8221; after they are sexually abused by their own mothers and female caregivers. Many psychologists believe there are nearly equal numbers of male and female child molesters&#8211;it&#8217;s simply women are better at manipulating their victims, not as likely to come under suspicion, and better and not getting caught. Also, they benefit from the fact that most people think males (even male children) are incapable of having sex forced upon them by women. Think again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the idea that people are mammals? Why is the longterm monogamous relationship so central to all &quot;sexual morality&quot; in your mind? What are you basing this on, outside of your own personal preference for sexual relations within monogamous commitments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the idea that people are mammals? Why is the longterm monogamous relationship so central to all &#8220;sexual morality&#8221; in your mind? What are you basing this on, outside of your own personal preference for sexual relations within monogamous commitments?</p>
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		<title>By: Anodynelite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anodynelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;which rather underscores my point that what the sex worker thinks and feels is structurally irrelevant…). &quot;

No it doesn&#039;t. What it points out is that johns believe in the illusion that&#039;s being offered by the performance, while most prostitutes knowingly con johns into believing that they want them, really truly, want them. (Who is the clueless one here?)

Men pay for this illusion because they have no real sexual power. Men with real sexual power don&#039;t have to pay for this illusion, because it is a reality for them. They want a girl, and they&#039;re attractive and socially graceful enough to actually sometimes get her. Fantasy becomes reality.

For johns, fantasy never becomes reality, except in their little heads.

There&#039;s nothing scarier than acknowledging that females have sexual power, at least for some people, apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;which rather underscores my point that what the sex worker thinks and feels is structurally irrelevant…). &#8221;</p>
<p>No it doesn&#8217;t. What it points out is that johns believe in the illusion that&#8217;s being offered by the performance, while most prostitutes knowingly con johns into believing that they want them, really truly, want them. (Who is the clueless one here?)</p>
<p>Men pay for this illusion because they have no real sexual power. Men with real sexual power don&#8217;t have to pay for this illusion, because it is a reality for them. They want a girl, and they&#8217;re attractive and socially graceful enough to actually sometimes get her. Fantasy becomes reality.</p>
<p>For johns, fantasy never becomes reality, except in their little heads.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing scarier than acknowledging that females have sexual power, at least for some people, apparently.</p>
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