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	<description>mocking the ways of true grown men</description>
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		<title>By: wedge</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2007/01/04/no-future-except/comment-page-1/#comment-32229</link>
		<dc:creator>wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humanity will &#039;survive&#039; - there&#039;ll just be a lot less of us, with much less influence and probably shaped a whole lot differently. 

Look in the sky and you can see dinosaurs with feathers, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humanity will &#8217;survive&#8217; &#8211; there&#8217;ll just be a lot less of us, with much less influence and probably shaped a whole lot differently. </p>
<p>Look in the sky and you can see dinosaurs with feathers, no?</p>
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		<title>By: rolando</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2007/01/04/no-future-except/comment-page-1/#comment-25779</link>
		<dc:creator>rolando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im pessimistic, so, I believe that the human race, not the world, will die at some moment in the (near) future because that is its destiny.
For humans is more important a brief moment of satisfaction that their entire lives, so, catastrophe is a must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im pessimistic, so, I believe that the human race, not the world, will die at some moment in the (near) future because that is its destiny.<br />
For humans is more important a brief moment of satisfaction that their entire lives, so, catastrophe is a must.</p>
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		<title>By: I don't pay</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2007/01/04/no-future-except/comment-page-1/#comment-17613</link>
		<dc:creator>I don't pay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...if, for the time being, mankind, instead of going through a period of growth, is going through a corresponding process of decay and decomposition from some old, fulfilled, obsolete idea, then what is the good of educating?  Decay and decomposition will take their own way.  It is impossible to educate for this end, impossible to teach the world how to die away from its achieved, nullified form.  The autumn must take place in every individual soul, as well as in all the people, all must die, individually and socially.  But education is a process of striving to a new, unanimous being, a whole organic form.  But when winter has set in, when the frosts are strangling the leaves off the trees and the birds are silent knots of darkness, how can there be a unanimous movement towards a whole summer of fluorescence?  There can be none of this, only submission to the death of this nature, in the winter that has come upon mankind, and a cherishing of the unknown that is unknown for many a day yet, buds that may not open till a far off season comes, when the season of death has passed away

And Birkin was just coming to a knowledge of the essential futility of all attempt at social unanimity in constructiveness.  In the winter, there can only be unanimity of disintegration...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;if, for the time being, mankind, instead of going through a period of growth, is going through a corresponding process of decay and decomposition from some old, fulfilled, obsolete idea, then what is the good of educating?  Decay and decomposition will take their own way.  It is impossible to educate for this end, impossible to teach the world how to die away from its achieved, nullified form.  The autumn must take place in every individual soul, as well as in all the people, all must die, individually and socially.  But education is a process of striving to a new, unanimous being, a whole organic form.  But when winter has set in, when the frosts are strangling the leaves off the trees and the birds are silent knots of darkness, how can there be a unanimous movement towards a whole summer of fluorescence?  There can be none of this, only submission to the death of this nature, in the winter that has come upon mankind, and a cherishing of the unknown that is unknown for many a day yet, buds that may not open till a far off season comes, when the season of death has passed away</p>
<p>And Birkin was just coming to a knowledge of the essential futility of all attempt at social unanimity in constructiveness.  In the winter, there can only be unanimity of disintegration&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://codepoetics.com/poetix/2007/01/04/no-future-except/comment-page-1/#comment-17345</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that - Bucky&#039;s law - certainly true in the software industry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that &#8211; Bucky&#8217;s law &#8211; certainly true in the software industry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;It&#039;s after the end of the world- don&#039;t you know that yet?&#039; as Sun Ra asked once....
Excellent post. My inadequate attempt at optimism:

Of course the phrase is Rosa Luxemburg&#039;s, who got her answer pretty quick, not only in 1914, but more finally 5 years later when her ex-comrades in the SPD had the Freikorps throw her in the Spree.  

There&#039;s an argument to be made that the choice for barbarism was made in 1914 as much as it has been in the last 30 years (AIDS and Climate Change are undeniably catastrophes, but so was the First World War, the Shoah...) but there were attempts to go the other way subsequently to both (1917-33, 45-79 etc etc) and that could-&lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; happen again. Note that both the examples I mentioned are &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; the barbaric catastrophe. And obviously that both ended in failure...

Having said that it&#039;s incredible how all the worst possible policies and economic ideas keep being used, keep persistently making the situation ever worse, as if there is genuinely a collective decision that there&#039;s nothing we can do anymore so sit back look Ken Russell&#039;s on Celebrity Big Brother and so forth. But also cf Buckminster Fuller, &#039;mankind has a tendency to try all the stupid ideas first before hitting on the right one&#039; or something like that...(heh see how tenuously I&#039;m trying to be optimistic here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;It&#8217;s after the end of the world- don&#8217;t you know that yet?&#8217; as Sun Ra asked once&#8230;.<br />
Excellent post. My inadequate attempt at optimism:</p>
<p>Of course the phrase is Rosa Luxemburg&#8217;s, who got her answer pretty quick, not only in 1914, but more finally 5 years later when her ex-comrades in the SPD had the Freikorps throw her in the Spree.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s an argument to be made that the choice for barbarism was made in 1914 as much as it has been in the last 30 years (AIDS and Climate Change are undeniably catastrophes, but so was the First World War, the Shoah&#8230;) but there were attempts to go the other way subsequently to both (1917-33, 45-79 etc etc) and that could-<em>could</em> happen again. Note that both the examples I mentioned are <em>after</em> the barbaric catastrophe. And obviously that both ended in failure&#8230;</p>
<p>Having said that it&#8217;s incredible how all the worst possible policies and economic ideas keep being used, keep persistently making the situation ever worse, as if there is genuinely a collective decision that there&#8217;s nothing we can do anymore so sit back look Ken Russell&#8217;s on Celebrity Big Brother and so forth. But also cf Buckminster Fuller, &#8216;mankind has a tendency to try all the stupid ideas first before hitting on the right one&#8217; or something like that&#8230;(heh see how tenuously I&#8217;m trying to be optimistic here)</p>
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